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Interview with Garry Nehl

Gary NehlPlease read our interview with ex Federal MP, Garry Nehl

BBLC

Garry what was your last job before your retired?

Garry

I was the Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives and that was from 1996 to 2001.

BBLC

And when did you resign from that, or not stand for re-election?

Garry

I didn’t stand for re election the 2001 election I had been the federal member for 17 years and I thought that was enough

BBLC

And when you decided to quit politics, how old were you at that stage?

Garry

I was 68

BBLC

Okay

Garry

I really wanted to quit politics at the 1998 elections but Tim Fisher really put pressure on me and persuaded me to stand again, when I decided to quit politics I was 65 and I was 68 when I actually did it.

BBLC

Obviously going form a very high profile high pressure job with all the kudos involved was it difficult just rejoining the rest of the human race

Garry

Yeah there’s Gareth Evans, when he moved from being a minister to being a back bencher and moved from being in government to opposition and moved to House of Reps and not the Senate coined the disease name Relevance Deprivation Syndrome. It certainly applies and it applies not only to politicians but people in all sorts of life and I suppose within that first year I was subject a little bit to relevance deprivation syndrome because your going from doing a very exciting job and a moderately powerful one to being nobody and so I think everybody feels it a little bit

BBLC

How did you adjust to it? Is it simply a matter of time or have you got to consciously work at the adjustment process?

Garry

Well we made a decision to go overseas we went for about 8 or 9 weeks to Scotland which made a physical break as well as the break from doing the job and that was very useful and we did that early 2002 but you’ve got to work at it because having been in that sort of situation of travel all the time because you have to if you’re a member of the Federal Parliament the demands on your time to travel all over Australia are enormous so you’ve got to make a conscious effort

BBLC

You didn’t entirely give up work, you were doing some other project were you not? When you got out of parliament?

Garry

The other thing though is that I decided that I should no longer be involved in party politics. To the extent that a new member does not need the former member looking over his shoulder and you have to be prepared to give up and get out and I have not been to a national party, party meeting locally, ever since. I’ve been to some of the state conferences in NSW and I was appointed chairman of the Research Centre which I did for 2 years. But that’s been my only contact, and like I said if you’ve got a new member the last thing that a fella needs is to have someone looking over his shoulder

BBLC

What are you doing now?

Garry

Had been doing other things I mentioned the research centre, I was also on the board of the National Marine Science Centre which was one of my babies that I created. But quite frankly I got terribly irritated by the infighting between the 2 universities Southern Cross and New England who share the centre so I finally left that once it was well and truly up and running. At the moment I’m heavily involved in aged care, I’m on the board of the Royal Freemasons Institution which currently has 22 aged care facilities throughout NSW and the ACT and that involves a monthly trip to Sydney for board meetings but also I’m very active, we’ve got a new hostel in the process of development at Raleigh, the sea end of the Bellingen Valley and so I ‘m pretty heavily involved with that.

BBLC

Do you find any time at all to relax and take it easy, it sounds like you’re still doing a lot of work, and running fairly fast?

Garry

Not enough time to relax in fact I can feel the little lament but I don’t have enough time to read and I've got dozens and dozens of books which I want to read and I just don’t get around to doing it but that will happen. My philosophy can be summed up very simply, you’ve got to wear out not rust out. And so you’ve got to keep busy

BBLC

I certainly agree with that, just finally, what’s the worst part of being a federal politician and what the best part?

Garry

The best part is your able to help so many people and you do, it's not just the big things like the National Marine Science Centre or my Pacific Highway campaign which has been very successful, but it’s the individual people that you're able to help directly. The worst thing, I don’t know,

BBLC

I guess I’m talking about the life of a politician.

Garry

You have no privacy, in fact when I was first elected after 6 months I said to my wife we don’t have any friends anymore, no one rings up and says let's have a BBQ or just pops round because we’re never here. We’re always away. I know one friend was very upset because she wanted to ask us over for dinner and I reasonably in my mind said please talk to my secretary because I could not make an appointment to do anything because the central diary was kept in the office in Coffs Harbour and unless you knew exactly what you were doing on any particular day, you couldn’t accept anything.

BBLC

And am I right in saying it’s the same for all politicians on both sides of the fence

Garry

Yes, in fact I don’t know any body of any political persuasion which isn’t there in Federal Parliament to do their best for Australia and the people of Australia they may be wrong and misguided and they may think that I am wrong, but they’re there to do their best.

BBLC

Why is it do you believe that we focus on all the negatives of being a politician and being a politician is not seen as a desirable career. Does that impact on the sort of politicians that we get?

Garry

I think it may, although speaking personally and I know for many, many others, you certainly don’t go in it for the money because I ended up with I think debts on my business accounts when I left of about $39000, so you don’t go in it for the money. The fabled superannuation scheme was no where near as good as we thought it was. But people go in because they want to achieve something, they want to do something for Australia.

BBLC

And it's just unfortunate that the media focuses so much on all of the negative things that politicians are seen to be doing which people take exception to.

Garry

Well particularly in the state areas but fortunately that really doesn’t happen in the federal government, there’s no opportunity for corruption because it's all at arms length. But the reason people are there is to do good things for Australia.

BBLC

Garry Nehl thanks very much for your time.

Garry

That’s my pleasure.

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